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Post by Petra Colburn on Mar 30, 2018 8:03:44 GMT -5
Okay, just a few pointers here and there.
* Double Fighters would allow me to get an extra Bakugan. Since it is you playing the card it goes into your limits, not mine. So I do not need a limit if you will give me an extra Bakugan anyways.
* My items cannot be copied since I am protected. If you need a deeper explanation why, I could spare a minute to write it out, but I think it is self-explanatory.
* If you copy my custom card no one does the sacrifices. Only initial activation requires sacrifices since custom card is overpowered without them.
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Post by Atom on Mar 30, 2018 11:20:45 GMT -5
Based on what you said when you played Suzaku, I believe I can play my ability. Allow me to paraphrase:
"Due to my protection all harmful effects pointed against me are shielded against."
According to Keto, your wording matters a lot with protection. You could be as specific as 'protection against opponent power decreases' or as broad as 'protected from all opponents effects'. But you went for 'protection from harmful effects'. In your words, you're only protected against harmful effects, right? Is Recursion Boost a harmful effect? No, not by the meaning of the words. Thus, as long as my card doesn't directly harm you, your cards or your Bakugan, I feel as though I can play it.
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Post by Petra Colburn on Mar 30, 2018 11:34:20 GMT -5
I'll make this easier on both of us and just inform an admin and let them decide.
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Post by Atom on Mar 30, 2018 11:53:50 GMT -5
Sounds good.
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Post by Zeno on Mar 30, 2018 12:12:49 GMT -5
Based on what you said when you played Suzaku, I believe I can play my ability. Allow me to paraphrase: "Due to my protection all harmful effects pointed against me are shielded against." According to Keto, your wording matters a lot with protection. You could be as specific as 'protection against opponent power decreases' or as broad as 'protected from all opponents effects'. But you went for 'protection from harmful effects'. In your words, you're only protected against harmful effects, right? Is Recursion Boost a harmful effect? No, not by the meaning of the words. Thus, as long as my card doesn't directly harm you, your cards or your Bakugan, I feel as though I can play it. I'm not entertaining this paragraph. Petra posted the exact wording on the card on the post, and that was to give the selected targets protection. The card is broad with its wording. Look up the card in the shop, and you will see that. The move is illegal. Please modify.
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Post by Atom on Mar 30, 2018 12:41:07 GMT -5
Okay then. Rewind back to my turn after you played the Suzaku card.
I guess I need to up the ante then. Gate Card, Open! Double Fighters! I bring out Chronogian, with the Special Shot Capital Shine! And I'll use his special. Ability Activate! Recursion Boost! I choose to reactivate Hydro Shield! That'll allow me to negate two abilities, as Recursion Boost reactivates it at twice the power! So I'll get rid of your Suzaku custom ability, and if your G-Power Burst becomes reactivated (I'm not certain how the sacrifices work, to be honest), I'll target it as well. (Again, Recursion Boost doubles the ability.) So I think that leaves us as such:
Me: 1100 You: 200 + ?
(If I'm wrong, please correct me. I'm not 100% certain I got the Gs right.)
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Post by Petra Colburn on Mar 31, 2018 2:40:54 GMT -5
Ability activate! Golden Prison! 1) I use an indirect effect 2) I select you and drain 200 G
- I select 'reuse' to reuse my Essence of Summer --> I gain protection --> I gain 200 G
Due to my protection my Suzaku card is not negated so it is active again. Since protection shields me from your negation we can immediately go back to the point where I activated the original Suzaku ability and start counting from there. It goes for both of us. I also gain extra 100 G per turn from Aura Chain draining since that is active once more. Also, taking your Capital Shine into the mix. Also, one more thing that I have to check with admin- since I also used Capital Shine before I do not know if it reduces base powers of all opposing Bakugans present at any time in the round CS was used in or only the ones present in the time of usage so I do not know if your new Bakugan is 500 G or 350 G. For now, let's say it is 500.
Me: 501 + 200 (drain) + 200 G (EoS copy) + 100 (drain) - 150 (CS)= 851 You: 300 + 500 - 100= 700
Me: 851 [protection] You: 700 [cannot use Normal Abilities, -100 G per turn]
Note: Before you make your move could you wait until Admin responds to me on discord about my effects? What I did here might have been incorrect so I need to check. Hope you do not mind waiting- I barely ever dealt with Special Shooting skills and 'protection against positive effects' so I do not want to do something unfair by accident. I'll inform you when things are confirmed.
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Post by Keto on Apr 3, 2018 9:49:03 GMT -5
There was a change of plans in discussion between me and Damian. It should have been 3-days rule on Atom, but he has never been personally informed of the change in the Note here. I mean- it stood in the chat for, at least, 1 day so he should have known, but I personally think it'd be boring to just do a disqualification after three freaking pages. So if Atom wants to continue he can post his move immediately ^^ Cheers.
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Post by Atom on Apr 3, 2018 9:55:26 GMT -5
I'll go for a simple negation. You might've indirectly prevented my from using Normal Abilities, but you still made the prevention. Ability Activate! Uncertainty Principle! That'll negate your ability and add 200 Gs to everybody on my team! So, I'm hoping I'm right with my calculations. (Also, you never specified what Bakugan you threw out with Double Fighters)
Me: 1500 You: 700
(Please tell me if my calculations are wrong.)
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Post by Petra Colburn on Apr 3, 2018 10:00:48 GMT -5
I'll do an Ability Breaker and negate your card.
Me: 851 + 100 = 951 [+100 G per turn] You: 700 - 100= 600 [no normal abilities, -100 G per turn]
I cannot get benefits of Double Fighters since protection shields me from all of your effects including the good ones.
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Post by Atom on Apr 3, 2018 10:48:25 GMT -5
I have nothing left in the tank. I've used both of my counters, my normal abilities are blocked, I've used my special and I have no eligible fusion. I can do nothing.
Me: 500 You: 1050
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Post by Keto on May 5, 2018 2:12:37 GMT -5
I forgot to lock this. Petra Colburn gains 300$ and 150 honor points. Atom gains 150$ and 100 honor points.
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