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Post by Zeno on May 7, 2018 15:57:39 GMT -5
Hello, ladies and gentlemen of WC. I have another module ready for you. I was writing for my American Courts final exam, and it really stressed how important it is to watch the way you word your sentences. As such, that will be the theme of this module, which will test to see how well you pay attention. As always, here are the rules. > I will briefly present a specific point in a brawl, and then I'll ask a question at the end of the post. Your job will be to post in this thread with your answer. > You have unlimited submissions. > Submissions will be allowed until I confirm a winner, so even if one person posts before you, you can still respond. > I can and will respond at any time. Once I acknowledge that there is a winner, I will close the thread. The person with the answer I'm looking for will receive $4000, and either 2 free wins towards an evolution/upgrade or 500 Honor Points. Let's begin. --- It is Alana vs Maria vs Brian. Here on WC, we go by a strike system. We give people strikes whenever they make a mistake in a battle. If you earn three strikes, you're disqualified from the battle. Sometimes, discretion is used by staff members, so if the mistake is minor (Ex. Accidentally leaving a Support Weapon's G-Power out of the G-Power calculation), a staff member COULD let you slide. On the other hand, if it is a major mistake (Ex. Using an ability that is not in your Bakupack), you're getting penalized. Keep this in mind. Knowing that Alana and Brian make tons of mistakes in battle, Maria decides to use a Forbidden Gate Card, Rule Enforcement. Now, any mistake made by ANYONE will count as a strike, regardless of how big or small the error is. If three strikes are earned, they are disqualified. Staff cannot use discretion when this is activated.Alana prevents both Maria and Brian from using Ability Cards. Brian plays a Special Ability card to send Maria and Alana's Bakugan to 0G. Maria then uses an Ability Card to negate all Ability Cards. When calculating G-Power, she has her Bakugan listed at 500G. Alana responds by playing an Ability Card that switches her power level with Brian. Brian then plays a Special Ability Card to prevent Alana and Maria from using Ability Cards and from opening Gate Cards. This ability is not in Brian's Bakupack nor was it made in the shop. The brawl ends right here. --- Question: Who wins the brawl? Alana, Maria, or Brian? Explain why. Before my conclusion, I'd like to analyze the important details of match which will lead to my conclusion. Brian played a Special Ability card which reduced both Maria and Alana's Bakugans' power levels to 0G. Maria negated all Ability cards, and then listed her Bakugan having a 500G power level. This right here, is an error. Why? I smell word play here, and if I am correct, Maria negated all Ability cards. Brian played a Special Ability card, which means his card isn't affected. Therefore, Maria's Bakugan should still be at 0G, not 500G. If her negation affected all effects, she would have gotten away with it. Maria earned a strike. Brian used a second Special Ability, which is obviously illegal. The rule allows the use of one of the said type per round. Brian earned his first strike. On top of that, the rule also states that it is illegal to use a Special/Fusion Ability card to prevent your opponent from using Ability cards. Strike two. The card wasn't in his Bakupack, neither was it ever made. Strike three and four. If anyone should win, it would be Alana, because her power switch with Brian puts her ahead of Maria. Besides, she never earned a strike. Question answered! Thread Locked
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Post by Atom on May 7, 2018 16:48:50 GMT -5
Brian does not win. He made 3 mistakes, all in the same move. He prevented Alana and Maria from using Ability cards with his special, which is a banned card effect. On top of that, the said card was not in his Bakupack, nor was it anywhere in the shop. Finally, it was his second special is the round. It was never stated that he got a second special count at any point in time.
That brings us down to Alana and Maria.
Neither seemed to make any mistakes, both being within their limits and not using cards they didn't have. But something definitely stood out. Nobody used up all their card counts, so how could a brawl end right after Brian's turn? Assuming that they were both at full gauges, and the paragraph was the beginning of the battle, it would be impossible for someone to drain a life gauge, assuming Brian's Bakugan is not twice evolved. (It if was, Alana would win at that point if they attacked, because Maria said her power was at 500 Gs) And what're the only ways for a battle to end? Three strike rule, which got Brian out, Empty Life Gauge, which is (probably) impossible. Then, there's the Three Day Rule, where if someone doesn't respond for three days without a reason, they automatically lose. Whose turn was it? Maria's. So, to conclude it, Alana would win because Maria automatically lost from the Three Day Rule and Brian lost from disqualification.
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Post by Zeno on May 7, 2018 17:43:07 GMT -5
"Brian does not win. He made 3 mistakes, all in the same move. He prevented Alana and Maria from using Ability cards with his special, which is a banned card effect. On top of that, the said card was not in his Bakupack, nor was it anywhere in the shop. Finally, it was his second special is the round. It was never stated that he got a second special count at any point in time."
Yes. I like this.
"Neither seemed to make any mistakes, both being within their limits and not using cards they didn't have. But something definitely stood out. Nobody used up all their card counts, so how could a brawl end right after Brian's turn? Assuming that they were both at full gauges, and the paragraph was the beginning of the battle, it would be impossible for someone to drain a life gauge, assuming Brian's Bakugan is not twice evolved. (It if was, Alana would win at that point if they attacked, because Maria said her power was at 500 Gs) And what're the only ways for a battle to end? Three strike rule, which got Brian out, Empty Life Gauge, which is (probably) impossible. Then, there's the Three Day Rule, where if someone doesn't respond for three days without a reason, they automatically lose. Whose turn was it? Maria's. So, to conclude it, Alana would win because Maria automatically lost from the Three Day Rule and Brian lost from disqualification."
No, no, no.
Something went right over your head. Read what I said again and see if you find what you missed.
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Post by Monorack on May 7, 2018 23:00:18 GMT -5
Brian got disqualified from getting three strikes, while Alana and Maria tied since Alana switched G-Power with Brian before he got disqualified.
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Post by Zeno on May 7, 2018 23:19:02 GMT -5
Brian got disqualified from getting three strikes, while Alana and Maria tied since Alana switched G-Power with Brian before he got disqualified. Nope. Only one person won the brawl.
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Post by Monorack on May 7, 2018 23:22:52 GMT -5
I would have to say Alana won because she negated all abilities first
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Post by Zeno on May 7, 2018 23:26:01 GMT -5
I would have to say Alana won because she negated all abilities first Slow down and think, because now you're guessing. So you just arrived at the conclusion that Alana won the brawl. That's good. Now if you want to convince me that she won, you have to explain why. What you said is not a reason why she would win in this case. Take your time and read over the module again. Like Atom, there's important details going right over your heads.
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Module 2
May 8, 2018 0:28:16 GMT -5
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Post by Blaze Hayes on May 8, 2018 0:28:16 GMT -5
Okay. Try two. Still on mobile.
We know Brian lost. His got three strikes.
From what I can see Alana has not made more mistakes since the Gate activation.
Thanks to the gate staff cannot really say about the mistakes and the strikes cause any mistake is now a strike.
With that said miss gatwle user here did not play an ability. So she is effected by her own card.
With that said. There is not a tie. So I will say Maria.
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Post by Zeno on May 8, 2018 0:39:49 GMT -5
Right. Ima give it a go again. So. We have a 1v1v1. Alana and Brian have made a lot of mistakes.Then Maria played a gate. One that makes any mistake a strike. The brawl ended after Brian's turn due to him making 3 mistakes in one. 1) he already used a special 2) the card isn't in the shop or bakupack. 3) even if the card was created it would not be approved because you cannot have two preventions in the same card. ONLY one premium effect per card. So with that Brian lost. Now this gets tricky. For either Alana or Maria could have won. We know Maria's g is at around 500. While this could imply she lost we do not know Alana's g. Therefore this isn't the answer. So this leaves another option. Alana's mistakes. Remember, she made a lot of mistakes. The moderator that looked at the brawl when brian made 3 mistakes would have checked the whole thing to see if anything else is wrong while they are there. If the brawl ended right there Alana or Maria would have done something wrong. This unlikely to be Maria cause she has not made mistakes from what we are told. Alana on the other hand made a lot. (Really? Hmm...) If the brawl ended then some of those must have been major to create 3 strikes. So the winner is Maria. On phone so sorry if I repeated a bit. The sentences I underlined... You need to read the module again... Unlike last time, you are very cold right now.
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Module 2
May 8, 2018 2:55:56 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Blaze Hayes on May 8, 2018 2:55:56 GMT -5
Edited.
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Post by Atom on May 8, 2018 7:31:16 GMT -5
Let's try this again.
Brian does not win. He made 3 mistakes, all in the same move. He prevented Alana and Maria from using Ability cards with his special, which is a banned card effect. On top of that, the said card was not in his Bakupack, nor was it anywhere in the shop. Finally, it was his second special is the round. It was never stated that he got a second special count at any point in time.
So that leaves Alana and Maria.
Looking through it, I thought of something. Maria negated ALL abilities for the round. So, if they're all on a level playing field, why would Alana want to switch Gs with Brian? She wouldn't, unless Brian's base power was above Maria's. We only saw a snippet of the battle, and because Maria negated all abilities played in the round beforehand, we can only look at the two abilities that were played after that. Brian's ability knocked him out, and as according to Damian, there was only one person at the end. So, Alana's ability is the straw the broke the camel's back. My idea is that Brian's power was above Maria's after her negation. Then, because Alana switched Gs with him, she would be above Maria and would win the brawl.
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Post by Zeno on May 8, 2018 7:48:53 GMT -5
Let's try this again. Brian does not win. He made 3 mistakes, all in the same move. He prevented Alana and Maria from using Ability cards with his special, which is a banned card effect. On top of that, the said card was not in his Bakupack, nor was it anywhere in the shop. Finally, it was his second special is the round. It was never stated that he got a second special count at any point in time. So that leaves Alana and Maria. Looking through it, I thought of something. Maria negated ALL abilities for the round. So, if they're all on a level playing field, why would Alana want to switch Gs with Brian? She wouldn't, unless Brian's base power was above Maria's. We only saw a snippet of the battle, and because Maria negated all abilities played in the round beforehand, we can only look at the two abilities that were played after that. Brian's ability knocked him out, and as according to Damian, there was only one person at the end. So, Alana's ability is the straw the broke the camel's back. My idea is that Brian's power was above Maria's after her negation. Then, because Alana switched Gs with him, she would be above Maria and would win the brawl. You're getting there...
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Post by Akihiro on May 9, 2018 10:05:29 GMT -5
Brian: 3 strikes he’s out—
Wait, is it stated on how Alana prevents them from using normal abilities, whether a bakugear effect or her own ability card
if ability card then she’s still at 1 strike for the wrong Gpower and that’s seems just about it for mistakes
however if Alana prevents them from playing abilities with a non specified battle gear, then Maria gets a strike for playing an ability she cannot use and having the wrong g power(2 strikes I assume).
Since the brawl ends, it seems that Alana wins due to the fact she has not made any mistakes compared to Maria’s 2
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Post by Zeno on May 9, 2018 10:24:01 GMT -5
Brian: 3 strikes he’s out— Wait, is it stated on how Alana prevents them from using normal abilities, whether a bakugear effect or her own ability card if ability card then she’s still at 1 strike for the wrong Gpower and that’s seems just about it for mistakes however if Alana prevents them from playing abilities with a non specified battle gear, then Maria gets a strike for playing an ability she cannot use and having the wrong g power(2 strikes I assume). Since the brawl ends, it seems that Alana wins due to the fact she has not made any mistakes compared to Maria’s 2 Took a couple of steps forward, and several steps back. You're making a couple of assumptions that are impossible to make, Alana's so-called mistake being an example. Also, we do not typically disqualify people for only having 2 strikes, meaning that either Alana or Maria lost due to an entirely separate reason. That's why I went through the trouble of explaining that part before I went into the battle itself. I do like how you said Maria made a mistake though...so we're almost there. Do note that Battle Gear cannot have preventions on them, just like the Support Weapons as a whole are not allowed to. Cards used by Bakugan Traps are an exception. Edit: Yes, I know you're probably saying that Maria was the one with mistakes all along; however, remember when I said that wording is important. It can change everything you're saying, so be careful. ^_^
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Post by Zeno on May 10, 2018 0:50:54 GMT -5
In less than 24 hours, the reward will go away. You have until then to answer correctly.
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