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Post by Bruce Wayne on Nov 6, 2014 23:24:58 GMT -5
Your card doesn't have the explanation I put on mine. Check what I stated after the semicolon in Cosmic Thunder. I call it "looping a direct counter". Your card doesn't have this term in it but mine does. I'm not bypassing any prevention like ghost effects, I'm simply looping, but if the looped card happens to be a counter, it'll serve as a direct counter. A direct counter is a counter that counters straightaway but indirect counters are counters that come from other effects like copying, reusing, looping, etc. I am looping, but instead of the looped counter to be indirect, it becomes direct
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Post by Ryek Marachion on Nov 7, 2014 0:11:14 GMT -5
Your missing my issue with it. The issue is that in the card, it says that you can loop a direct counter without it counting towords your counter limits. My problem with it is the fact that if that is legal, then legally you can simply create and use these loophole cards as all 5 of your cards, with no reprocusions to your negating limit.
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Post by Bruce Wayne on Nov 7, 2014 0:18:40 GMT -5
Let me ask you this: if you use a card that allows you to loop an ability and you loop a counter, will it go towards your counter limits or looping limits? It'll go into the looping limit of course. In this case, because I'll be halving my power level first, the limit I'll lose is halving my power level. So basically, I can't do it again. How will I even be able to do that more than once when the rule says that a brawler can use other strategies once.
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Post by Ryek Marachion on Nov 7, 2014 1:46:26 GMT -5
1) I would like to apologize for if I seem knit picky or rude, and I apologize for holding up the brawl. Think of it on the brightside, now you have a argument against any one who tries to use these complaints again.
2) the " other strategies" limit if I'm not mistaken is based on the usage of strategy effects such as in Jack Trainor and Tristan Noleras' cards. Don't know the exact ones, but there somewhere.
3) although your right, consider the paradoxical state of your card. A card that does negate through its effect, but doesn't. A card whose effect says that this counter isn't going through any other effects, but also says it is. That is where I get tripped up. How can a card indirectly/directly do something at the same time.
Once again sorry for the using up of time, but this card is a new beast and I want to understand its parameters totally.
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Post by Bruce Wayne on Nov 7, 2014 2:38:22 GMT -5
I think the other strategies limit means legal limits and effects that are not listed in the limits. For example, copyrighted effects and such. Now this is where you are mistaken. I'm gonna divide the effect. (1)Halve your power level (2)to loop a direct counter. Halving can be done once. Looping can be done once but since I would be sacrificing half of my power level, the limit I am sacrificing will cover. I'm halving to loop an ability but to better define or specify that ability, I put a counter ability. Normally, a counter from looping, reusing, copying, etc, is an indirect counter, but instead of being an indirect counter, it'll be a direct counter. Take for instance, an effect that says "replace the first effect with an effect from my bakupack which will act as this card's first effect". Won't you say that the user is making an indirect effect to be the direct effect of a card? Is it illegal?
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Post by Ryek Marachion on Nov 7, 2014 13:37:07 GMT -5
Let's get a third party oppinion. I'll ask the question
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Post by Ryek Marachion on Nov 11, 2014 14:02:36 GMT -5
Umm.... Does anybody win this brawl?
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Post by Bruce Wayne on Nov 11, 2014 14:35:29 GMT -5
If you want this brawl to continue, I'll modify my move or we can start afresh in a new thread. Which one do you choose?
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Post by Ryek Marachion on Nov 11, 2014 15:52:10 GMT -5
Lets start over
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Magnus Wayne
Hyper Brawler
Former Crusader
"No more playing games, it's time for the showdown. Bakugan brawl!"
Posts: 97
Guardian Bakugan: Astrogon
Alignment: Neutral
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Post by Magnus Wayne on Nov 11, 2014 15:54:54 GMT -5
I will be the one you'll face. I'll shoot you a PM. Lock this one.
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Post by Ryek Marachion on Nov 11, 2014 15:56:21 GMT -5
Ruling: no contest
Thread locked
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