Post by Jason Sylvester on Dec 22, 2014 17:28:20 GMT -5
I don't know if card counts work like that. I think it is supposed to be 3 since I used extra card counts and by negating those cards which gave me card counts you negated whole counts themselves (too complicated)
Anyways...It does not matter.
Ability activate! Eclipse Undo! 1) I negate up to 4 cards (I negate all you used) 2) I double effects of one Special Ability or Fusion Ability
Me: 2800 (+500 G each turn) You: 1000 (-500 G each turn, cannot loop, cannot have SWs in the play)
Fusion Ability activate! Eclipse Saber Twister! 1) I gain two Special Ability counts 2) I gain 1000 G 3) I remove your attribute making you Clear
Me: 3800 (+500 G each turn) You: 1000 (-500 G each turn, cannot loop, cannot have SWs in the play, Clear Attribute)
Cards Me: 0N 3S 0F (I think I still have 2 normal abilities, but...) You: 3N 0S 1F
Post by Klaus Wolfang on Dec 22, 2014 19:06:03 GMT -5
Special Ability! Mercury Razor Edge! 1)I will multiply your effects with one of your numbers in your G power. I pick 0. 2) I make two clones of one played card.
I clone your UKA Tulx to negate previous effects. I will reuse gate at double power and call in two SWs.
I negated all your stuff... Me: 4300 (+500 G each turn) You: 0 (-500 G each turn, cannot loop, cannot use SWs)
I call in another Ornis and Hoverdrive...
I use effects of new Ornis! 1) Call in a SW at x2 effects 2) Gain a card count (NA)
I call in Star Reaper! 1) I reuse one card at x2 power
I use Hoverdrive! 1) I gain protection 2) Double effects (targeting Star Reaper)
I reuse your UKA Field Change at x4 power due to Reaper and Hoverdrive combo. I prevent you from looping, copying and reusing. I replace your Bakugan with my Haos Dianas. I gain 2000 G.
Me: 4300+1200+2000= 7500 (protection, +500 G each turn) You: 0 (-500 G each turn, cannot loop, cannot copy, cannot reuse, cannot have SWs, your attribute is Clear, your Bakugan is switched with Dianas)
CARDS Me: 1N 0S 0F You: 2N 0S 1F
This is the deal. You cannot play NA, so you cannot play FA either. You could negate, but used up all direct counters. Option would be an indirect counter, but you don't have a SW or Special Ability to do it and even if you had you cannot loop, copy or reuse, so it is pointless either way.
I don't know if battle had been legal so far because of that count thing, but staff may check. Sorry if I look to offending with this attitude I am just sleepy. Sorry for not linking all stuff. It is all as it says don't worry. I will show you later to prove it
I will post what I think and let some other staff agree/disagree.
1) Some Rejii's cards were created after creation of this thread, but not in the middle of THIS duel between me and him, so I don't know if it is legal or not to use. If not that's a strike one.
2) Rejii used third direct counter
3) UKA Field Change was approved before this battle, but in the middle of the battle it was disapproved and I won't give any strike for it since it is not his fault.
4) I think count thing here is weird. If I used ability to gain ability and play another ability will I lose two counts if my first ability was negated (the one which added another one=? If it is the case OK, if not....then this all mess was FOR NOTHING.
Post by Markus Hederick on Dec 23, 2014 16:53:57 GMT -5
1. Yup, a strike.
2. No. A protect is a "special counter" and can be used once.
4. I've explained this already.
A strike for you too, Jason. Mecury Razor Edge specifies G Power not effects. (For first alternate effect.) Oh, and yeah, you still had 2 normal abilities after negating Eclipse Undo. So, both of you get a strike each. Since you would have never been able to multiply his effects by 0, Jason, Rejii's previous will still be active. So, you never would have been able to clone UKA Tulx because Rejii's effects are protected.
Seeing that you guys have gone far, modding from almost the start would destroy the match. I'll recommend a restart of this round. Don't make the same mistakes again.