Phoenix
Hyper Brawler
Posts: 54
Alignment: Neutral
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Post by Phoenix on Jul 24, 2016 22:09:00 GMT -5
Not sure if it's too late to add an idea and I looked around and didn't find this being asked before (my bad if it has) but regarding the interest here, I get that this is a RP site and you guys have already deeply invested in a plot but it puts newbies (like me) in a spot where I'm thinking "how do I get relevantly involved?"
This is just me and how I viewed success on other forums, they have competitive events. Especially for those people who just like brawling for the heck of it and not doing a plot. My suggestion is tournaments and Gyms.
Tournaments: Self explanatory. We all know what they are. Maybe have an evolution be a prize since they seem to be highly conveted.
Gyms: No not the training gyms you already have. Think along the lines of Pokemon gyms. Where you would make a skilled player of a certain attribute a leader and whoever challenges them and defeats them will win that respective badge. Really gives people somethin else to do besides role play.
Again, I apologize for my boldness but I figured since I'm getting fully invested in this site and you guys are talking about improvements, I might as well chime in.
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Post by Zeno on Jul 24, 2016 22:59:57 GMT -5
The battle boards can be a little iffy to navigate. How come the board for event brawls is in the middle? Would it make more sense for it to be around the top? Just moving the locations around in order of importance perhaps? As for the RP, the RP should have its own separate grouping away from general threads and battle posts. Those boards can be quite busy, so recent RP posts will be overlooked by the other posts. I agree with the RP suggestion and will separate them. The other one though... Why does that matter and how does it make it difficult to navigate if all of them show up on screen at the same time? (This is a serious question) Not sure if it's too late to add an idea and I looked around and didn't find this being asked before (my bad if it has) but regarding the interest here, I get that this is a RP site and you guys have already deeply invested in a plot but it puts newbies (like me) in a spot where I'm thinking "how do I get relevantly involved?" This is just me and how I viewed success on other forums, they have competitive events. Especially for those people who just like brawling for the heck of it and not doing a plot. My suggestion is tournaments and Gyms. Tournaments: Self explanatory. We all know what they are. Maybe have an evolution be a prize since they seem to be highly conveted. Gyms: No not the training gyms you already have. Think along the lines of Pokemon gyms. Where you would make a skilled player of a certain attribute a leader and whoever challenges them and defeats them will win that respective badge. Really gives people somethin else to do besides role play. Again, I apologize for my boldness but I figured since I'm getting fully invested in this site and you guys are talking about improvements, I might as well chime in. The tournament suggestion has been addressed already. People like you are the reason why the roleplaying issue has been brought up in this thread. Some said that there needs to be more open roleplays for non-canons to participate in so they can immerse themselves in the story. I responded with giving them the call to action because that shouldn't be my job as the author. Wouldn't the individual who suggests that there is a lack of open roleplays be the problem if they're not making or participating in one themselves? There were plenty of instances where open roleplays were created by the members that coincided with the main story. Why that stopped remains to be known, but that's more of a member issue than an author issue. As far as your role in the official main plot, the only opportunities non-registered canon members would get is if there's an episode where non-canons will be used. That's the orderly structure we use here. I don't like having anyone just jump in there unannounced (I know this because it has happened). That'll appear to you like you're not going to matter because someone else is just going to jump in front of you and make you irrelevant. That can't happen. So the solution for someone like you who is contemplating involvement in the story would find success immersing themselves in it through open roleplays like Allen has already started. That's what our discussion has revived and I'm hoping that it's to everyone's satisfaction.
Finally, let's talk about your idea for the gyms. I find it interesting. That's mostly because that system was in place in a past WC. There were gyms allocated to each attribute and would award a rare Bakugan (i.e. Legendary Soldiers, White Ones) upon a victory. [I'm not sure why this feature was removed. Calvin (GM) would probably know better than I would about that, but I can bet that he doesn't.] What are you thoughts on that idea, everyone?
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Post by Keto on Jul 25, 2016 4:55:26 GMT -5
Idea of Pokemon Gym system does sound like something we should do. Of all games and anime it seems like the most 'adventurous' system. Whenever time is right I suggest we do a test of this.
Putting skilled brawlers as Gym Leaders could be a little hard to newbies. Guess this is where Shira's suggestion about classes should kick in. Something just does not feel right, but I don't know what.
How about a rule that does not allow Gym Leaders to use Forbidden Abilities? Challenger can use 1 Forbidden Ability. Gym Leader can use 1 extra card other than Gate and Forbidden Ability.
I don't know what needs to be done here, but it does not feel right. Until I see classification system and tests I cannot know what it is.
Test this whenever.
Did Trent mention this? I cannot bother to check. Perhaps we should have special event battles. E.g. Pyrus Event or Pyrus Tournament.
Bakugans and SWs should of matching attribute have extra 25% G-power. All effects of matching SWs and cards used on matching Bakugans/SWs get multipliers. Bakugan and SWs of opposite attribute have 25% less G-power. All effects of opposite SWs and cards used on opposite Bakugans/SWs get negative multipliers.
Reward? Perhaps a Special Bakugan.
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Post by Shira on Jul 25, 2016 7:14:09 GMT -5
People usually read stuff from top to bottom, left to right. Placing stuff on the top usually signifies great importance. This can be something like a sponsored event. And as you scroll down, they aren't as important as the boards above, but still pretty important. (If I missed anything that I notice later on, I'll add onto this on another post )
Oh, and DG. (This may or may nlt be the thing bugging the idea but I'll give it a shot) what if that class leader has gone inactive? Would there be a backup is sorts?
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Post by Keto on Jul 25, 2016 7:51:08 GMT -5
There should be a backup. As a person who does not see big difference between attributes, I can act as a backup for anyone. Just make 6 Bakugans, 120 cards and it's okay.
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Trent Shutaro
Hyper Brawler
"If you say you're strong, why don't you back it up?"
Posts: 81
Faction: Subterra
Guardian Bakugan: Sentrius
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Post by Trent Shutaro on Jul 25, 2016 7:58:59 GMT -5
The Gym idea is great! At least, no one gets bored, even newbies. Not everyone prefers roleplaying to battling, so giving them a chance to keep battling [and roleplaying (for roleplay lovers)] in Gym Quests is a great way to balance the equation. My idea on this would be a board dedicated to Gym Quests requests. A staff would approve the request based on a certain criteria, assign the temporary Leader to take the challenge (if the Leader is inactive), and in the end, close the request thread after the quest is over with the battle thread's link. Better still, no Leader is elected. The staff will only assign a fit brawler for the quest. Rewards like Damian's suggestion are good, and in compensation for the chosen brawler's time, maybe a reward?
Every Gym Quest thread should be opened by a staff. Oh, and staff powers should revert to how they were: Adverts, Shop etc, with new ones like Gym Staff, Quest Regulator etc. A board in the battle area for quests should be provided.
Attribute-based tourneys are a great way to have brawlers with different attributes. Why? They will want to participate in tourneys where they think they actually have a chance of winning, maybe because brawlers with that attribute are not are skilled as those in another. Well, regardless of the irrelevance of what I think is a benefit, your idea, DG, is quite involving.
I see where you're coming from when you said you're against the idea of giving a brawler bonus, Damian. It gives an unfair advantage to the brawler. But how about this: if we're able to scale down power generally and employ Season 1 rules, having a Pyrus Bakugan with a base power of 400G in a Pyrus battlefield gain 25G won't be too unfair. Multiplier bonuses can be taken out of the idea. Employing this in the Quests too seems good to me.
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Post by Gin Estimaro on Jul 25, 2016 12:41:04 GMT -5
Everytime I read this thread it gives me serious hype on how cool the new battle system will be.
The Gym Master idea is awesome, it should motivate brawlers more to grow and develop into better brawlers. I also would like if there is a sort of Gym Master show down, to know the superior gym master. Also please, I'm begging the admins, Dextra Gym master should not be permitted. I find the Dextra attribute absurd.
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Post by Gin Estimaro on Jul 25, 2016 13:00:44 GMT -5
Alright, so I was told to post an idea I brought up in another thread.
You guess must be aware of situations in anime and cartoons alike where the bad guys got the upper hand and it seems like there is no hope. A good example is in Bakugan Battle Brawlers when Silent Naga was one shotting every bakugan and the whole world was in Chaos. What if we could replicate such situation in WC, not the RP this time but the site itself, where it would be in a state of Chaos and there would be a sort of embargo on trading and some arenas will be shut down untill the bad guys are put down. If you consider this idea, if would make joining an alliance worth while. We see some alliance taking the path of light while other take the dark path but for no reason. But now it would matter and their actions will be recorded in WC history.
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Post by Shira on Jul 25, 2016 13:26:23 GMT -5
Ohhh that would be cool! It may take some time to arrange, but it seems like a very fun idea! I'm in for it
Ohoh, what if during these times of chaos the forum theme is different, one that relates to chaos?
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Post by Tristan Noleras on Jul 25, 2016 21:46:35 GMT -5
Idea of Pokemon Gym system does sound like something we should do. Of all games and anime it seems like the most 'adventurous' system. Whenever time is right I suggest we do a test of this. Putting skilled brawlers as Gym Leaders could be a little hard to newbies. Guess this is where Shira's suggestion about classes should kick in. Something just does not feel right, but I don't know what.
How about a rule that does not allow Gym Leaders to use Forbidden Abilities? Challenger can use 1 Forbidden Ability. Gym Leader can use 1 extra card other than Gate and Forbidden Ability. I don't know what needs to be done here, but it does not feel right. Until I see classification system and tests I cannot know what it is. Test this whenever.
Did Trent mention this? I cannot bother to check. Perhaps we should have special event battles. E.g. Pyrus Event or Pyrus Tournament. Bakugans and SWs should of matching attribute have extra 25% G-power. All effects of matching SWs and cards used on matching Bakugans/SWs get multipliers. Bakugan and SWs of opposite attribute have 25% less G-power. All effects of opposite SWs and cards used on opposite Bakugans/SWs get negative multipliers. Reward? Perhaps a Special Bakugan. I tried really hard to avoid responding to the part of your post I underlined because I thought we addressed that in the 1st page of this thread. I don't want to directly say what I want to call that because I don't want to come across as disrespectful. You know how I feel about statements like that based on what I was saying. I'll leave it there. I do think that there needs to be some restriction on what the gym leader is able to use (or specifications as I'd prefer to have). We don't want the leader to be too strong to where there isn't a reasonable chance that they can be taken down, and we don't want them to be too weak to where anyone and their grandmother can whoop them. They were balanced in the past and they'll be balanced here.
As I said before, Trent, that idea is unfair regardless of how you try to word it. How do I know this? I've battled in that environment. Having any kind of power advantage just because of a factor like that shouldn't dictate whether someone wins or loses, and it will have that much weight on the result. That's a terrible feeling to have when the only reason why you lost the brawl was because your opponent got lucky and got a bonus from the field. There's zero skill in that. Plus, in season 1 rules, it doesn't matter how low or high the power level is. There are no life gauges. It's just one knockout and the Bakugan is out. The fact that you specifically said it won't be "too unfair" shows that you acknowledge it as being unfair, just not on the same level as I do. That's my stance on it.
Shira, you said that the battle boards can be a bit iffy to navigate. I asked you two questions. I asked why does that matter and how it's difficult to navigate. You only answered one of those questions. What you said would only imply that it's a personal problem on the viewer's part. As I said, the boards appear on screen at the same time; they are all in a straight line. The order doesn't affect the person's ability to tell which one is which. If there was an important brawl being held, they'd be marked so that they appear at the top of the arena board at all times. We don't need to switch around boards to do that. I will not be making any changes to the ordering of the battle arenas.
Gin, you're a genius.
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Post by Klaus Wolfang on Jul 26, 2016 11:27:40 GMT -5
Random idea. MMO shit.
Dungeons, raids, world bosses. Underlined crap was my idea from before. Considering that system allows people here to gain unlimited G-power (which is ridiculous in my opinion) you could nuke a Raid with one move. This is why I gave up on it.
I could fix the system easily, but chance that someone would invest in this crap is fairly low. It would be nice setting a villain from an official RP like Xecarlos and his Bakugan to be a World Boss and then all people fight to do as much damage as possible and get rewards according to their results. And Raids are for instant rewards with no ranking or with ranking, but less people. I could imagine seeing Baalenoid as a Raid. One problem...everyone can get unlimited G-power.
Unlimited G-power is something...weird. If Bakugan dies of using Forbidden Abilities too much wouldn't it also be appropriate if it dies after overloading with G-power. I doubt Dan's Drago in anime ever had millions of G-power. And he was a pro. While every person here who spams a lot of combos could nuke Dan and his Drago and bury them six feet under with millions of G-power.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't like it. It looks dumb to me. I mean, if you have multiple Bakugans a lot of power is okay, but one Bakugan...just seems weird, okay?
Would it be a thing to implement Doom Card? And Doom Dimension? I would be so happy if it doesn't happen. Unless you modify original rules of Doom Card it just means you lose the fight and your Bakugan bites the dust.
Random crap I get on different sites. Just putting games out there or something. Or polls. Some events for interest where you answer questions, make guesses or something like that idk. That would be a neat activity when you don't do anything.
Pfft...this was a good waste of time and keyboard. Literally.
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Post by Gin Estimaro on Jul 26, 2016 12:24:46 GMT -5
Yeah, the whole scenario where Bakugan's gs sky rocket to an absurd level is wierd. I do say we should reduce the basic increase and decrease to 100G to 200G. Also it will be fun if Doom Dimension is implemented. To make the Doom Card relevant, brawlers would be prevented from making cards for multiple bakugans at once like 'Drago, Skyress, Gorem can use this card' and brawlers should be prevented from creating Bakugas that can use other bakugan's card.(Unless, wow, an idea just occured to me, what if Bakugans that evolved will be allowed to use cards belonging to one other bakugan in the players baku pack and the next evolution will allow the usage of cards of two bakugans) Because if those measures aren't taken brawlers won't feel the loss when there bakugan goes to the Doom Dimension. Also I think the staff should also take records of bakugan being sent to the after life to prevent unnecessary arguements in the future. Further more, it will be cool if brawlers can embark on a journey to retrieve their bakugans in the doom Dimension(I think a new battle area will be required). They get to battle the Gym Master of their attribute to get their bakugans back. But the Gym Master gets to use a legendary bakugan of the required attribute and abilities created by the Game Master not them.(Basic effects with moderately OP effects just to make it balanced.)
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Anonymous
Brawler
Commander Of The Elite Revolutionary Guards UNKNOWN
I am there where you don't expect me to be
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Post by Anonymous on Jul 26, 2016 22:21:33 GMT -5
Gin. I am totally with you on your idea of state of Chaos. But then, is there a need of two alliances or is there a need for more. I mean, should there be one team on good side and one in the bad??
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Post by Gin Estimaro on Jul 27, 2016 3:10:51 GMT -5
Every team has its own allignment but some teams either good or bad could come together either to destroy WC or save it.
Also I think doom card should be sold in the bakugan shop so that people will only use it when neccesary.
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Post by Alex Andersen on Jul 29, 2016 14:56:18 GMT -5
I need to know something now that I see everyone's rank reset and SWs having differences based on types.
-If I am Beginner and ALREADY have a BakuNano or something from before I still get to use them normally, right? -We do not need to modify our current SWs according to the differences that are going to be implemented, do we? -If answer to the upper one is 'no' and we evolve our SW does our new evolved SW need to abide by these difference-rules or not? I assume yes, but just need to be sure.
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